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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Friday, June 27th, 2008 06:10 pm
quick note to flist ...

Via the LoudTwitter app, I'll be importing my tweets to my LJ once a day. The first one was last night. I want to share my thoughts on this.

Like everything else I post, this is for my own amusement or reflection, and/or to prompt a discussion if anyone has anything to say on whatever I'm talking about. And like everything else, you're free to read it or skip it.

I'm flattered that people read what I write, and sometimes comment, and I really love the dialogue that this provides. Out of respect for that, I don't intent to flood my journal with a bunch of (or perhaps a bunch more) incomprehensible half-conversations and mundane comments on what I happen to be doing. To be honest, it's that kind of content that prompts me to skip over some twitter feeds on my own friends page.

I plan to use it for bursts of pithy observation or (attempts at) humor that I can fit into the 140-character limit, stuff that for whatever reason I don't want to pull up an LJ window to compose. Maybe the challenge of the character limit appeals to me, who knows. I doubt there will more than 1-2 per day, and if I like the medium and start using it more, I'll import the daily batch behind a cut.

Anyhoo.

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obsqurity
obsqurity
owner of this corner, and not much more
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 01:38 am (UTC)
we win!

You have finally given in and joined the Twitter Borg. ;-)
My take on it has been a bit unusual, in that I just decided against the LJ feed... it's mostly all overlapping people anyways.
ohyeah, and I'm mmmmbobo.


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 08:30 am (UTC)
Re: we win!

Sweet.


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cornycornguy
cornycornguy
Cornycornguy
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 01:53 am (UTC)

Twitter is great. I'd be interesting in reading your Tweets... in Twitter. Not in LJ.


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 01:59 am (UTC)

I appreciate the comment, but honestly I don't see what the difference would be, except right off the top of my head I would think that importing them will be advantageous, both to provide an easier way to reply, and to include them in a forum you already read.


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cornycornguy
cornycornguy
Cornycornguy
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 02:06 am (UTC)

Tweets that show up 12 hours or 24 hours after they were posted and out of context are next to meaningless. And Twitter has it's own commenting mechanism that works very nicely.

I've dropped 3 Loud Twitter users from my FL and I will probably, regrettably, do the same with you if it produces too much noise here. I recommend getting a nice Twitter client like Twitterific and following your Twitter list there rather than via LJ. It works much better and doesn't annoy people on your FL.


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girl_on_a_stick
girl_on_a_stick
stickgirl
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 04:43 am (UTC)

+1


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 08:25 am (UTC)

Twitter's commenting mechanism doesn't work for people who aren't on Twitter, and doesn't generate discussion in the same way LJ does.

I imagine that quite a few readers don't read LJ posts as they're posted, so I'm not sure what context is lost via a delay between twittering and reading.

I think you're employing a lot of prejudice as to what the imported posts will be like.

If you want to drop this journal from your FL, of course that's your choice, but I'd hate to think it would be for something as minimal as a couple inches of screen space you'd need to scroll past.


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cornycornguy
cornycornguy
Cornycornguy
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 03:17 pm (UTC)

I'm employing a lot of prejudice about what other LoudTwitter posters' imports have looked like. Put it this way: I don't see anyone except inexperienced Twitter users saying positive things about LoudTwitter. Everyone else hates it.

I agree with what drjeff said in your previous Twitter post (and these comments are feedback to all LoudTwitter users, not just you): if your 160 characters are so incredibly clever that you think they will generate in depth LJ discussions, why not take the 10 seconds to open up your LJ client and repost them manually? You are so busy you can't do that? Or is it that every post you make to Twitter will be pure nuggets of brilliance? Or just that you prefer to waste your readers' time filtering out the noise than your own? To me it is presumptuous and annoying, no less annoying than I'd find it if someone decided to email me a copy of every LJ post they made just to make sure I didn't miss it. Maybe SMSed it to me too. Redundant, out-of-context noise is the last thing most people want.


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 05:56 pm (UTC)

I don't get that argument; you can avoid redundancy by not following those folks in Twitter, and the out-of-context issue makes no sense (in my case) considering I suppress conversational tweets, and usually my own LJ posts are not context-dependent. I just feel like giving this a try. I dislike clutter on my own flist just as much as anyone. I've complained about Twitter feeds several times. I guess on that basis alone I don't get the rationale behind the assumption that mine will be exactly the same kind of thing that I myself hate reading, especially in light of mentioning specifically in my post what I plan to do (and not do) with it.


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cornycornguy
cornycornguy
Cornycornguy
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 06:07 pm (UTC)

I guess on that basis alone I don't get the rationale behind the assumption that mine will be exactly the same kind of thing that I myself hate reading, especially in light of mentioning specifically in my post what I plan to do (and not do) with it.

I guess I don't get the rationale behind thinking "everyone else is obnoxious when doing it but I'm not."


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 06:22 pm (UTC)

Well, I've mentioned what I consider obnoxious: multiple, half-conversational tweets and mundane status reports. The rationale in this context is from me not planning to do the same.

I understand what you consider to be obnoxious is similar, plus the redundancy. Since the redundancy can be avoided easily. the rationale is otherwise the same. I also get the sense that you simply don't like the principle of it, and I can't change your mind about that. I'd appreciate if you'd reserve judgment until you actually see what I do with it.


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cornycornguy
cornycornguy
Cornycornguy
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 03:26 pm (UTC)

One other thought, more constructive. Check out Friend Feed. I think it accomplishes what Loud Twitter tries to do (give you a cross-service, unified persona) in a much more constructive and powerful way: lets people know when you make posts on any service (Twitter, Flickr, del.icio.us, blogs, etc). But it gives the reader the power to filter out types of posts they aren't interested in.


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dstroy
dstroy
dorota
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 02:20 am (UTC)

I love following my twitter friends in twitter, but HATE the imports here.
For one, it's redundant - I can comment just fine within twitter - why make us see it twice? Additionally, the type of stuff that makes twitter interesting is the instantaneous IMing-to-the-group thing - an aspect completely lost by doing a mass copy-dump 24 hours later.


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 08:28 am (UTC)

You can avoid the redundancy by not following my Twitter account. I don't think I'm getting my point across about how I will be using it ... I don't intend to give a play-by-play of my day, so I doubt much will be lost by reading them later.


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stopword
stopword
Alice
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 03:06 am (UTC)

Your journal, your rules. I'm like you, I find it really easy to skim/skip things I don't want to read - like 80% of the community posts I get!

A friend of mine did a funny bit of performance art on Twitter: http://twitter.com/chrispackham - I picture your tweets as being similar.


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 08:30 am (UTC)

I'll check it out!


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pygmymetal
Other LJs are available....
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 03:18 am (UTC)

Oh lord, someone else lost to Twitter.


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 08:28 am (UTC)

? I'm not going anywhere.


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pygmymetal
Other LJs are available....
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 04:44 pm (UTC)

Good. :)

I'm still trying to find a good reason to use Twitter. Haven't found one yet.


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wuweibaby
wuweibaby
touching now
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 05:59 am (UTC)

such is life. all is change.


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thatsassylassie
thatsassylassie
thatsassylassie
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 07:28 am (UTC)

dude, do what you want, for you. those who can't hang, can kiss off. Its not your blog to entertain the faceless masses, its you, for you. I'll read ya no matter what. And since I'm NOT jumping on the twitter bandwagon, if you don't import it here, I'll miss it. but do whatever you want. <3


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 08:28 am (UTC)

\m/


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rougeforever
rougeforever
Liz
Saturday, June 28th, 2008 09:10 am (UTC)

wot she said. I don't think we owe anything to our 'audience' ...not that I have one anyway ;)


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cheekyassmonkey
cheekyassmonkey
tori
Sunday, June 29th, 2008 08:25 pm (UTC)

ok ... i read the other one first. i don't feel like the sky is falling anymore ;)


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