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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Friday, October 24th, 2008 02:29 pm
peeve of the now:

(as distinct from a small bike)

The writing style wherein sentences are ended with ellipses.

I hate this, when the tactic is used in order to convey the idea that the author is pausing for the inevitable laughter that the humor delivered in the sentence will (at least in the author's mind) doubtlessly provoke.

Almost invariably, however, the statement is completely unfunny to begin with, so I automatically interpret those poor, abused ellipses as the written equivalent of the sad trombone.

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brucix
brucix
Non-Sequitur Man
Friday, October 24th, 2008 10:00 pm (UTC)

I interpret ellipses as a carefully unwritten insult. For example:

Dear Bob, I don't understand this data. In our prior product, we sustained 500 bogoMIPS, not 300.

vs.

Dear Bob, I don't understand this data ... In our prior product, we sustained 500 bogoMIPS, not 300 ...

Which is really saying:

Dear Bob, I don't understand this data, because your chart making skills suck. In our prior product, we sustained 500 bogoMIPS, not 300, and you would have known that, if you weren't such an idiot.

Or maybe I'm just paranoid.


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cheekyassmonkey
cheekyassmonkey
tori
Friday, October 24th, 2008 10:05 pm (UTC)

ack!
i would never use them in any sort of business correspondence.

i would read that the same way.


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brucix
brucix
Non-Sequitur Man
Friday, October 24th, 2008 10:10 pm (UTC)

Hehe, I worked with one engineer who wrote with ellipses in all his emails. By the end of the project I was sure he hated me!


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Friday, October 24th, 2008 10:11 pm (UTC)

Could be, but in a non-comedic context, I just read them as careless (particularly in a business communication), such as to convey an incomplete thought. But then why would commit an incomplete thought to writing? Why not just complete it first?


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cornycornguy
cornycornguy
Cornycornguy
Friday, October 24th, 2008 11:00 pm (UTC)

to convey an incomplete thought

I think that is how most people I know use them, not as "whan whan whan..."

They can be irksome, but I'll defend them in certain business contexts. If the purpose of the communication (typically email, but occasionally IM) is "I need a little help here," and you are trying to call attention to where you need a little help, how do you suggest doing that (informally, not as a memo stating "Dan: I need you to make a decision on X by 5 o'clock and get it back to me")? I frequently use them precisely to express incompleteness of thought, as in:

So we know the user is supposed to fill in the quantity field before they click on the big shiny button, but let's say they don't. Should we take them to the next page anyway and assume they meant to put something in their cart? Or should we throw an error and let them know they are a moron? Or maybe we don't need a quantity field at all...
It is the uncertainty and imprecision I'd be trying to call attention to and the willingness to accept input from others. I suppose I could pose everything as complete questions, but that starts to look awfully needy. "A little help here? Please? Can someone please help me?"

I do tire of LJ posts that use them incessantly... meandering... Like this.... This is just lazy...


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cheekyassmonkey
cheekyassmonkey
tori
Friday, October 24th, 2008 10:04 pm (UTC)

wow. i had no idea. i'm not going to change my writing style, of course. additionally, mine are not for comedic effect, but rather to genuinely represent a wandering, or an endless litany, or something of the sort.


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Friday, October 24th, 2008 10:12 pm (UTC)

Pay no mind, I'm ranting. :)


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kaleidoscopeeye
kaleidoscopeeye
Kaleidoscope Eyes
Saturday, October 25th, 2008 10:48 pm (UTC)

*nods* I use them as well.


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boy_asunder
boy_asunder
ryan christopher fox
Friday, October 24th, 2008 10:29 pm (UTC)

Excellent fucking peeve. I actually use them sometimes mid-sentence to indicate an above-average pause, but this makes me wonder if they aren't taken that way. But yeah, end-of-sentence ellipses are no good.


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sanguinity
sanguinity
Sanguinity
Friday, October 24th, 2008 11:50 pm (UTC)

*perking up* Really? You hear a sad trombone? That is so totally awesome. I'm going to use ellipses a lot more.


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Saturday, October 25th, 2008 05:34 am (UTC)

I think I hear it now ...


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sanguinity
sanguinity
Sanguinity
Saturday, October 25th, 2008 04:07 pm (UTC)

I heard it! I heard it!

Aw, it reminds me of Sesame Street... :-D


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shebear
shebear
Won't you be my neighbor?
Friday, October 24th, 2008 11:54 pm (UTC)

I tend to use them to either convey being at a loss for words, or trailing off, or when typing on an IM, that it's going to be a long one and I'm going to continue from there in a second.

It drives me crazy though because Morgan tends to use them over IM just for ... well, I have no idea exactly. (And see, that's how I tend to use them.) It's how he ends many, many things he types there and it drives me insane because I always think there's going to be a followup.

Me: Things going okay at work?
Him: Yeah...

See, I'm expecting more after that! But that's also all personal communication, I don't think I use them much if at all in business communication. For work, I am all about concise, succinct statements, and ellipses don't really fit in to that.


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Saturday, October 25th, 2008 05:36 am (UTC)

I had a boss who would use two dots after every distinct phrase, as if he couldn't make up his mind whether the next one was a continuation after a pause, or a new thought. Reading his emails would exhaust me.


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sistermaryeris
sistermaryeris
Bake, Love, Kickbox.
Saturday, October 25th, 2008 01:22 am (UTC)

They have their place in the Abused Punctuation area, for sure. I use them sometimes but hopefully respectfully...

(haha)


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Saturday, October 25th, 2008 05:36 am (UTC)

Oh ow, my side.


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sistermaryeris
sistermaryeris
Bake, Love, Kickbox.
Saturday, October 25th, 2008 01:24 am (UTC)

Oh and since we're sharing.

What is the "of the now" shit? Like three people on my friends' list use that all the time and it annoys ME...

(ok, now I'm just being a jerk)


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Saturday, October 25th, 2008 05:37 am (UTC)

Well it would be silly and just plain presumptuous to call it "peeve of the future."


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littlebluedog
littlebluedog
Tim
Saturday, October 25th, 2008 05:31 am (UTC)

2 hours? That's a lot of ellipses to redact!


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cosmicjohn
cosmicjohn
Something witty and engaging
Wednesday, October 29th, 2008 08:26 am (UTC)

120 words per minute

Good_God! I'm the quickest I know at 91. I bow to you, good sir.


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drjeff
drjeff
Raoul Duke
Saturday, October 25th, 2008 04:11 pm (UTC)

I use them all the time and love them, as they help me write lazily.


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